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Bretonnian Release Details July


If you follow the site here, you would know that Bretonnians are rumored to be an early to mid July release this summer. We really have not had any details on exactly what the release would include. A long time coming, this will make a lot of people happy to get a new armybook and some model releases. I get quite a few emails asking if there are any whispers or hints about Bretonnians. So here it is, some details for July


Please remember that these are rumors.

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
A little bird behinds the scenes has revealed to someone I know that 
apparently Bretonnians are in July and will be getting a new book along 
with...

Plastic duel kit questing/grail knights

Plastic knights of the realm/questing knights on foot. Have maces or swords 
plus shields.

special rule for knights armed with maces confers a +1S

two clam packs with characters.

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  1. New knights just in time for the Bristol Renaissance Faire? GW, you sneaky such-and-suches.

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  2. Please be True. i would dearly love to be able to run unmounted knights on foot as a unit. :D and also new plastic Grail Knights. sounds great. better be real :)

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  3. Agreed. I've always felt that Bretonians really needed a unit that was better than the peasant mob but not as elite as the knights. Maybe do a squire unit.

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  4. Neat. I tried Brets a few years ago, and found them very...bland. Simply not enough of a variety of units to keep one's interest. More foot units is great news for those guys.

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  5. I would really love to see them do armored halberd units of Knights on foot too but i doubt we will get those. but still, I will gladly take the dismounted knights option. i dont like peasants and would love to be able to run an elite style Crusader army type of thing :)

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  6. This release is going to have to be a lot bigger than that. They need -

    - Questing Knights
    - Grail Knights
    - Grail Relique
    - Yeomen
    - Battle Standard
    - Mounted Hero

    Just to replace the models that are *missing*, not to mention new releases.

    If this comes to pass, its a big, *BIG* release, not just a couple kits.

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    1. Unless they do what they did to Tyranids and just remove entries that don't have models.

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    2. Most armies under the new 8th ed style don't have specific models for BSB heroes, or even mounted heroes - players are left to craft their own from plastic kits or else to purchase older finecast kits.

      I would be focused more on the plastic releases, which if similar to the other fantasy releases in the last 2 years would probably include:
      -questing knights/grail knights combo plastic
      -2 different knights on foot units combo plastic
      -5-man mounted yeoman plastic, possibly combo with the standard "unit counts as a lvl 2 caster" fast cav (could be ladies dedicated to..the lady. lvl 2 life caster)
      -grail relique might be gone, might stay finecast, or might become a new LARGE dual plastic kit with a new centerpiece unit
      -plastic clampack knight lord of some description

      That would be my bet - 4-5 new kits, many of which are combo kits, alongside a new book.

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    3. Battle Standards are currently a requirement of a Breton army. Though they'll probably remove that.

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    4. No I get that, and despite not being a "requirement" of other armies, every competitive army takes one; my point is that they'll either keep the model as is in finecast, or create a (dare I say it??) dual kit like the empire/high elf kit, where you can make a mounted or unmounted lord/hero/BSB...though in this case it would likely just be two different mounted heroes.

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    5. There is no current model. It was discontinued a year ago. More likely we'll get a clam pack that has both a banner and a sword option.

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    6. You forgot about the trebuchet, it was the first model to disappear from the European site.

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    7. So I did. lol. With any luck we'll get a dual kit so you can have flaming bombs instead of a rock.

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    8. i would say a duel plastic kit for a bigger trebuchet and a bigger grail relique acting out as a cross from like the kingdom of heven movie

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  7. The men-at-arms kit badly needs an update. It doesn't even contain all the options available to the unit as its written.

    Men-at-arms\Archer dual kit would be ace.

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  8. I wonder how they would try to balance a primarily-cavalry army with a rules edition that doesn't favour them?

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    1. By releasing a new edition that does so everyone has to suddenly change their armies again.

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    2. Its not that 8th doesnt still favor knights, if used correctly; its that the bretonian only "3 wide" formation isn't favored simply because you don't get enough attacks in. Going 5-wide with brets is still going to get you more attacks on average than the 3-wide formation, so you use heavy hitting 5 wide units to do damage and long 3-wide units to break steadfast. Magic is always their friend as well, as are the trebs. Overall not a poor army, just monotonous in how it plays.

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    3. For an edition that doesn't favor cav, high and dark elf cav armies are the most powerful armies in the game right now. Bretonian character walls are devastating, three cheap paladins in front, or with rerollable 1+ saves with blessing and a hkb lord with reroll to wound is insane. It's more the idea of 15 models having five full ranks rather than 3, a small frontage to minimize attacks coming back at them, and getting most of the knight attacks on the charge that makes Brets powerful.

      I fail to see how brets are weak right now, as they have awesome magic items, some of the better lores for their army (shadow would be nice though), and one of the best war machines in The game.

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  9. They need a lot more than that. They lack variety and depth. They need more peasant units with option

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    1. The issue is, what else can you do with peasants? You can hand them armour and a simple weapon and tell them to stand somewhere, or maybe they did some hunting in their own time and have a bow, so you tell them to stand further back and try their best. Some eschew there crappy lives to become sort of religious fanatics. If they are truly fortunate, they are someone of rank (for a peasant) and get to ride a horse and pretend to be a knight.

      The only things I could think of would be better archers, or battle-hardened soldiers. But are they much of a peasant then or a competent soldier? I could see lords training his peasants to actually do some work, but that only adds one new unit with a few weapon options and who'd have to be outshown by foot knights, that means WS3 instead of 4 and no blessing (I hope they keep that). So now do you put the foot knights in special? Most Bret players have plenty of core, but special is pretty barren compared to other slots, so I'm guessing many would rather just take the better foot knights (who doesn't like ward saves on their basic troops?).

      I just hope we don't see peasants with blackpower or soldiers-for-hire, it'd take a fundamental change in Bretonnian philosophy that I wouldn't care much for.

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    2. They could make a fundamental change to the men-at-arms, allowing them to carry a number of different weapons and swap out each turn ala Black Orcs.

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    3. Peasants have their own flavor. They suck, they are conscripted in and told to go die on the line by people who dont care. They do well enough in that regard, too. I dont like the idea of changing up peasants too much, I think more innovation could be applied to other areas.

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    4. Why not go the way of medieval total war. Make men-at-arms actual soldiers of the likes of state troops and give us an actual peasant mob with no equipment bar a hand weapon, crappy leadership and crappy weapon skill.

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  11. Don't think KotR need to be redone unless their options change from lances and shields to alternate weapons depending on formations. As the "Old World" has advanced in technology I would like to see a more siege weapons, longer ranged Longbows, oh and the more important thing; Bretonnian Knights (of all types) become the best cavalry in the entire game.

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  12. I'd like a unit of priestesses in service to the Lady of the Lake who function like the Wood Elf Sisters of the Thorn or Dark Elf Warlocks.

    Knights on foot with options for sword and shield or a great weapon would be nice.

    New men-at-arms are sorely needed and I'd love to see an option for an elite unit of professional soldiers, kept as a small core by feudal lords.

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  13. Hoping the rumor about the foot knights is true. Really fills a nitch that is lacking in the current line up.

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    1. And I am likening the idea of a magical sisters of the lady unit.
      And keep the grail relique and maybe combine it with some thing else. Like a light bombard!
      Ok maybe not in every ones mind as to how the Brits should be represented. But, when in a siege, when the enemy refuses to face you in honorable combat. Anything goes.

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    2. Or hell, a group of presents skirmishers with thresher Flail's. Just for the hell of it. Use them to bash enemy skirmishers in combat, flakers, and to just give other peasant's that little anti-armor boost.

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  14. If this is true this is my response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_xjBAd5G84

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  15. This rumor sounds like made-up or wishlisting... Knights on foot is a very old rumor (which doesn't seem too believable...)
    And july? What are they doing in june? ANOTHER 40K release? A 40k codex right after 7th would be dumb IMHO, they could do a campaign, but it's more reasonable to have alternated releases (but who knows with GW) and so a fantasy armybook would make sense, also considering an imminent new possible fantasy edition (fantasy is already at the end of its 4 years cycle).
    Well, we'll see i guess.

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  16. Hopefully we'll see a plastic Grail Pilgrims box that has all manner of useful bits like the Flagellant box did. I need more rank and file for my AM.

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