Are These New Models: Beserkers and Terminators?

On page 390 of the new 6th edition  rulebook, there are a models found in the battle scene that most people are thinking are new models hidden in plain sight. There are terminators, beserkers, and dreadnoughts (hellbeasts as the leaked chaos pgs are calling them). Are these new models?



I am not an expert on this one.... I do not know every model in every army. However I wanted to delve into it, so that you can get your own look at what is potentially new Chaos Marines.

The following pics are from Spikey Bits via MBG, where they discuss these models in greater detail than I am going to here. Here is the link http://blog.spikeybits.com/2012/07/spotted-new-chaos-terminator-berzerker.html

First off lets deal with what I think is the obvious one... the Hellbeast. I believe that this is a Forgeworld type model or a kit bash that includes the forgeworld model.

The terminators. This one is tougher, and the models do look like possible new sculpts. However there are links posted here that show someone that kit bashed terminators (from the design studio I believe, but have made White Dwarf showings in the past from what I hear) showing terminators that very similar. Here is the link and a pic of those terminators
http://www.freewebs.com/grandmasterwade/khorneworldeatersofficers.htmPretty

Then we have the Beserkers, which very much look like a new model. The legs are hard to figure out if its truly a kitbash, or sculpts, however, once again we have a link to models made very much like the ones shown in the picture, so they could very well be these models........
http://www.freewebs.com/grandmasterwade/khorneberzerkers.htm

 I think that terminators and beserkers might be new models. The reason I think they could be new models is because its very possible that the models by Grandmaster Wade could have been the new inspiration for new sculpts. Are these actually his models in the picture. I did not see an exact model match, but its hard to tell from all the poses. So it is very possible that while Wade made models very similar, he might very well be the inspiration to create new sculpts.

On the flip side, they just might all be Wades models, and he is very prolific in his modelling (there are a lot of models on that page if they were all his custom work).

What do you think?